Okay, I rendered the two files you suggested and deleted the bad drivers file. Neither of these solutions seem to work. In both rendered files they played back great in movie maker and media player but stuttered as usual in premiere e. I had regular premiere with a dvc setup for years and never had a problem. Of course though I shot the video through my canon gl2 to watch and edit. I also used a amd processor with that too. I did have a pretty good dual head graphics card though. I'm confused why these video files work fine with other media players but not with premiere. What do you think at this point? Mark
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